Attention Mouthy: Fred Franz Started the Blood Uproar

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  • compound complex
    compound complex

    Dear Mouthy, Oompa and all other board members:

    You might not be persuaded by the author's [Gruss] declarations as much of the information in THE FOUR PRESIDENTS has been given anonymously. I am not certain of the sourcing for Jerry Bergman's book, however. Regardless, please give what follows a read. If ever Fred Franz and Clayton Woodworth truly had a theocratic mission, it is indeed Mission Accomplished.

    You be the judge.


    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/126825/1/Persecution-Wanes-Banning-Blood-Garners-Publicity

    "After the Judge's death, as World War II was ending and persecution against the Witnesses began declining, along with the attendant drop in news-media publicity, Hayden C. Covington told the author [of THE FOUR PRESIDENTS] that Fred Franz saw the prohibition against blood transfusions as a way to accomplish two things: to continue to publicize the religion, and to create an uproar in the community. This reaction would convince the membership they were being "persecuted" and "suffering for righteousness sake," a sure sign they were "in the truth."

    According to Jerry Bergman, author of BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS: A HISTORY AND EVALUATION OF THE RELIGIOUS, BIBLICAL, AND MEDICAL OBJECTIONS, 1994, p. 5:

    "The blood issue has brought witnesses more publicity than any other issue in the last twenty years."

    "The ban on blood transfusions was an effort to solidify the Knorr administration." [Knorr initially objected to the weird scriptural interpretation justifying the abstaining from blood; he understood the scriptures to be in reference to animal blood only. Nevertheless, he went along with the ban.]

    "Key Watchtower officers held a view of distrust toward the medical profession."

    "Some high level Watchtower official naively reasoned that, if eating blood was wrong, blood transfusions were also wrong because they are 'intravenous' feeding as opposed to extravenous feeding, or normal eating."

    While Rutherford swallowed some irrational rantings by Franz and Woodworth over the beginnings of the blood issue, he would not allow publication of FWF's "special knowledge" as "new light" in THE WATCHTOWER. The two mischief makers kept things stirred up and began convincing others, including Knorr. The author was told that now that "King Saul" [FWF] is dead, the leadership would like blood transfusions to be a matter of conscience and lay the blame for all the suffering at the feet of Franz and Woodworth.

    Does tacit approval on the part of the Governing Body constitute blood-guilt?

    THE FOUR PRESIDENTS OF THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY (JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES), Edmond C. Gruss, Editor, pp.74, 75, 231

    "When faced with mounting opposition, Fred Franz eased the Society's position on blood regarding the following: (1) Serum injections such as diphtheria toxin antitoxin and gamma globulin blood fractions were permitted. (2) There was no need to drain blood from fish (except when "a person sees an accumulation of blood"), only land animals. (3) While a Witness could not personally use fertilizer using blood, he could use it when employed by a non-witness. This and similar situations were made matters of conscience. (4) Over the years, the Watch Tower Society had taken the position of prohibiting the use of blood fractions in the treatment of hemophiliacs. But long before officially leaving this stringent position, if one were to call the headquarters they would be told that such treatment was permissible. Years later, in the June 15, 1978 WATCHTOWER, the "oracle" decided the pressure was getting too severe, so he withdrew his position altogether, and permitted both hemophiliac preparations Factor VIII and IX. How many hemophiliacs died in the interim, further sacrifices on the altar of man-made Watch Tower dogma?"

    THE FOUR PRESIDENTS, E. C. Gruss, Ed. p. 77

    Compound-Complex

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  • Dagney
    Dagney

    Thank you CoCo. I've decided to use this with my JW associates when the blood issue arises. I simply going to ask them if they know the history of the blood issue, they might be surprised.

    Speaking of blood, mine is boiling.

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  • hamsterbait
    hamsterbait

    COCO -

    Since Rutherford had colon cancer - a disease which then involved operations requiring copious amounts of blood are any of us surprised that he did not want noolite that might endanger his life?

    I am curious about the gradual relaxation on blood - Knorr wanted to do his international tour in the early 50s. Strange to say when he realised that a tour of the Third World would prolly mean coming back in a coffin, the rules on vaccines were relaxed.

    I reckon if you had access to the health files of the GB every compromise that came along was to serve their interests.

    Just like the 1935 and 1914 changes.

    What were the health problems of the GB in the 80s and 90s - that is the key. Any ex beth Hell ites or current lurkers care to share?

    HB

    PS Where's that music I asked for??

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  • compound complex
    compound complex

    Thank you, Dagney and HB, for your replies, including the questions posed regarding alterations made to benefit WT leaders.

    CoCo

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  • BabaYaga
    BabaYaga

    Wow. Bookmarked... thank you, Dear CoCo.

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  • compound complex
    compound complex

    You're welcome, Dear Baba!

    CoCo

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  • mouthy
    mouthy

    Thanks Co CO ... I did know a lot of this I read the book.

    I get so riled up over the blood issue ..

    .Ive know so many who have died because of the rule.

    Love you for all your input Dear Dear Co CO...

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  • jehovahsheep
    jehovahsheep

    thanks mouthy-that picture of you looks like a movie star from the 1940s.

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  • JustHuman14
    JustHuman14

    WT is so EVIL...most of all Freddie is rensposible for many stupid doctrines that the WT holds, and one of them is the blood issue. Amazing how do they consider human life, a "religion"that suppose to be Christian and loving.

    They make me sick those liars in Brooklyn, since they know they are wrong, but they keep following the lies

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  • mouthy
    mouthy

    thanks mouthy-that picture of you looks like a movie star from the 1940s.

    WELL!!! Send your address jehovahsheep,,I will send the money I promised you to say that

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